I’m going to make this simple and leave the information you need to know. This is the best red hive you could run and everyone should work towards this. Last updated: BEESMAS 2024
This guide is approved by leaderboard players and used by top boosters.
Message taraneu or a_cid for any questions.
Table of Contents
Amulets
Supreme Star Amulet:
- Critical Chance
- Instant conversion
- Pollen
- Bee Ability Rate / bgp
- Red Pollen
Stick Bug Amulet:
- 2 Red Bee Attack
- Red pollen/Pollen
- 10% bee attack
- 1 Bee Attack
Ant Amulet:
- Bee Attack
- Critical Chance
- Crit power
- Red Pollen
Cog Amulet:
- Red Pollen
- Event Bee Ability Pollen/bgp
- Super Crit Power%
- Red Instant Conversion
- Bee attack
Moon Amulet:
- 8% Honey Per Pollen
- 10% Bond from Treats
Snail Amulet:
- Goo Conversion
- Goo
- Pollen
King Beetle Amulet:
- 1 Red bee attack
- Strawberry pollen
Try to get the max stats on each amulet. HIGH CONVERT RATE IS ALSO NICE TO HAVE BUT OTHER STATS HIGHER IS FAVOURED
Pollen from bees is viable on SSA if you have max white drives
Hive Build
GET 500 RED AND WHITE DRIVES AND TRY TO BUILD UP GLITCHED SLOWLY.
This image displays an endgame hive build:
- 11 Precise Bees
- 9 Spicy Bees
- 9 Vectors
- 3 Carpenter Bees
- 4 Tadpole bees
- Digital + Festive + Bear + Tabby + Crimson + Photon
- Rad Bee + Riley Bee + Commander Bee + Brave Bee + Shy Bee + Hasty Bee + Basic Bee
- Buoyant Bee
Another hive variant is to run a rage or a lion instead of hasty to put a second toy drum on brave, and moving the toy horn to rage or lion
Whether you run rage/lion depends on your attack, if your stick/cog/k-beetle amulets have decent attack stats your precise bees should be able to reach 50 attack without flame heat or stinger. If they do -> run lion else run rage
If you have a charm. bracelet or melody whistle you can use that instead of a second toy horn allowing you to not run rage lion or hasty (or keep hasty if you wish)
Mutations
In the most optimal scenario, you’d have movespeed on every single bee except for vectors, digital, and precises. vectors would have bar (or movespeed which one doesn’t matter much) instead, digital % gather amount, and precise bees can also have instant conversion (movespeed is still better buts it’s just a replacement, bar is also not bad)
But getting that is extremely expensive so for the cheaper mutations, get attack % on precises (this can help you reach the attack gather cap meaning you don’t need to run a rage bee if you have bad attack from amulets)
And then for any non mythic/event bee, it should be relatively cheap to get movespeed on them, it’ll still cost a couple trillion and you’ll need to gift them using fruits so I only recommend once you can afford it
For the other mythics, none of the cheap mutations really do much, so keeping them unmutated is fine. However these are some options you could get that might make a tiny difference: energy on tadpoles, and % convert amount in spicys
Required beequips for this composition to work:
1 Toy drum
2 Toy horns
1 Whistle
1 Kazoo
VALID BEEQUIPS TO USE
- Toy Horn FOR BAP
- Pink Shades FOR SCP and SCC
- Poinsettia FOR BGP And RP
- Festive Wreath
- Sweatband -> Digital Bee FOR WHITE GATHER %
- Beesmas Tops FOR CP
- Toy Drum -> Riley Bee FOR BAP
- Paper Angel -> Photon Bee FOR BAP
- Peppermint Antenna -> Bear Bee FOR ABILITY RATE
- SMILEY STICKER -> HONEYMARK!!!!
- Whistle -> Commander Bee FOR SCP/ MELODY
- Paperclips -> FOR BAP / Token Link
- Reindeer antlers-> baby love
Before you donate to the wind shrine, make sure you have max precision, stack, and haste. Always refresh precision when below 25 sec (15 sec if you trust yourself) . If you run out of it, get it back to x10 ASAP. Have x10 red boost all the time by allowing some of the precision abilities to miss. If you don’t have scorching you can stack precise marks, you get red boost tokens for scorching + precise marks. The most important thing is, if you have scorching active, get it to 6K+ ASAP, collect all precise targets and stay in marks. SPAM PRECISE MARKS. Try to not move around too much too fast because your bees will stop spawning tokens. Do not turn flames into dark flames instantly so they last longer.
Want proof this hive works??… just look at how much this average player makes here
Rose > Pepper > Strawberry
Pepper is easier to boost but rose is more rewarding
- Rose can have 15 duped tokens on the field whereas strawberry and pepper are limited to 12
- Strawberry pollen on king beetle amulet
Why do you need brave bee?
Why no vic bee?
Brave Bee provides good buffs to your hive, including extra Bee Attack and thus improving Star Saw conversion and the Beequips it can have make it really nice to run (eg. Toy Drum or Toy Horn).
You can run Vicious Bee for casual playing and doing RBC, but during boosting and for Red in general it’s pretty bad as it doesn’t give you anything beneficial.
hey why isnt there rage bee tho
Not worth running and commando is better
Hey acid,
I am a F2P player and would like to know a good replacement for Bear Bee!
Probably an extra spicy bee
There is none, if bear bee is a must for Red. You may use other other bees but none can do what bear bee does
you could also just trade for a bear bee egg, 3 signs isnt that much if you can afford most of these beequips lol (bb egg is similar value to festive wreath)
You should go trade for it
Why don’t you need any fuzzy bees?
Having fuzzy bees in your hive while endgame will decrease your honeymaking substantially so a fuzzy alt or helper is NEEDED for red endgame. If you are not endgame yet or your alt isnt ready then you can add 1 fuzzy (only lvl x<19)
Hey!
Are Pink Shades okay for red hive or only white? I got them last beesmas and have been holding onto them as I only just went red.
Cheers
Hey Nathan! Pink Shades with a hive bonus of Super Crit power are really good and definitely could be run as white!
why the absence of windy bee tryna get preped for beesmas
Windy bee really has no benefits for red hives and has no reason to be run. It isn’t fantastic for RBC nor does Red lack token collecting (Precise Bees targets) you can replace a cheap bee for windy for quests or if you can’t be convinced
Gifted Baby Bees aren’t really needed due to Gifted Tadpoles giving Baby Love, so I would remove the Baby Bees and replace them with either a Gifted Tadpole or something else.
The frogs and bubbles they spawn only cause lag. Having frogs is pointless and the only point is to have Constant Baby love. Also the main reason is that it’s incredibly easy to get BAR on Baby Bees whereas it is expensive to get it on Tadpole Bees.
Okey dokie
I just wanted to say thanks for creating this guide, it has to be the most reasonable solution to all situations of boosting/attack. I hope i learn well of what you posted.
Thanks for your comment! If you need any help dont be shy to ask!
What if the person wants attack? Frogs can do hefty damage.
Bubble lights on vectors? Why not smiley stickers?
Bubble lights on vectors or precise bees. Smileys on Precise Bees. Remember these are only suggestions and you can run whatever you have.
Why no gifted fire bee for the 50% flame pollen?
Simply not worth a slot, flames is not a primary source of pollen in current red hives
I am a level 17 full gifted red hive with 12 precise bees, 10 spicy bees, and 8 vector bees, however, I have to run a gifted fuzzy as I don’t have a fuzzy alt. Currently I am stuck in a conflict of whether or not I should run a hasty bee, as I currently use brave, rage, riley, 3 carp, 2 tad + 2 baby, shy, and a buoyant. I was thinking to remove riley since my buoyant already gives me a lot of extra capacity buffs, or potentially removing a baby/carp, or just not running a hasty bee in general. I would really appreciate getting your opinion on this acid.
Honestly you could boost without a hasty bee if you run some haste beequips. Also I dont recommend staying red for too long if you aren’t working towards a fuzzy alt.
What can I add/remove to help me with rbc (I am lvl 16 red hive no star saw) like how many precise bees and so on
Dont really recommend being red at such an early stage due to it takes a lot more skill than blue and is way more expensive in terms of stingers.Also at level 16 you may struggle with RBC, you could try going Robo hive but honestly I just recommend learning which upgrades are good and levelling up your bees ALSO GET SAW ASAP!
Why don’t you need rad or fire?
not worth a slot and flame pollen isn’t the source of honey for red
Wouldn’t Bubble Lights on Vectors not work because they need an energy mutation first?
just get energy mutation then lol
im currently a blue hive but is it recommended to switch to red after a while or should i just stay blue?
also could i replace a music bee with a cobalt bee with a toyhorn?
You could switch to a red hive once further developed, check out the other red guide made. I recommend lvl 19+
Personally i dont believe a cobalt bee is worth the slot. Music bee is kinda op
I need a 45 red hive
why pollen from bees on ssa? does bee ability pollen count as pollen from bees?
No but pollen from bees (now bee gather pollen) counts for smiley token collection
You can’t do Bubble lights on precise bees. Maybe you meant vectors?
is this up to date after the new update?
yes
why isn’t there a rage bee? It got buffed
Not worth running as the attack will not benefit precise gather and running a commander bee is more worth it for beequip compatibility
Whats a good bee to add in replacement of bear bee?? i might do fuzzy bee but lmk
update:
I got bear bee and gifted him quickly which is help me run my hive pretty well. as an early red lvl 12 i got 700b in a boost, which is decent for the fact i messed up the glitter and had to gamble smooth dice to get back to 3x pepper field. quick question tho, do you think camphor lip balm is good. one of the bonuses is 1.04x pepper field pollen which i think is lowkey fire
rbc hive?
why not include lion bee w/5% gifted pollen over riley bee? What is the benefit of riley for boosting w/red and star saw?
For the 20% Red field capacity (If you have alot of buffs on like double or triple bear morph while boosting your bag will explode and u wont be able to make tokens if u dont have enough capacity) and because it can run tdrum which red doesnt have many good options for (only riley and brave since you wont be using bucko or demo in red)
why the brave bee but no rage bee?
Shy bee gives 5% bee ability pollen, while lion gives 5% gifted bee pollen. If “bee pollen” includes both gather and ability pollen, it seems like lion is now better than shy.However both are still useless to run sadly. Onett needs to buff bap
why is brave ran over rage
Rage bee is better than a brave bee because 10% attack is better than 1attack.
Attack is not needed a lot right now as precise bee gather is maxed at 90 which is easily achieved and commander/brave have better beequip compatibility
Wouldnt you want thumb tack for 6% red bee attack?
Is Windy any useful in red hives now after the change to clouds?
No because haste is more important
On what bees do I put beequips that aren’t specified what bees they have to be on?
Put wherever you can fit
Surely you dont need festive bee anymore since the hive bonus gives convert rate at hive
Still useful – HM FESTIVE MRK FESTIVE GIFTS
Am i able to use this hive w/o dark scythe
not recommended work towards scythe ASAP
What would a good bear bee replacement be?
Next update you can trade for bear bee voucher so add a normal bee and stock up on signs to trade for a voucher
Hello! I have a question, I’m midgame and I’m planning on going blue, as it’s the cheapest,yet pours in the most, and then I want to switch to red as I want attack, and collect good pollen, and so my question is, should I make a new account and make that account a fuzzy alt?
Yes but I don’t recommend going red early
would it be okay to switch at level 18, I dont have digital yet and can nearly afford the dark scythe
Get dark scythe first
what is core beequips should we have with stats (have 12 slot only)
Red hive is so hard to grind when you are a f2p player tho.
I was wondering what bee equips on what bees do I run? Also, do i run rage cuz what do i put the 2 toy horns, Whistle, and Toy drum bee equips on?
it says whistle for commander and toy drum for riley, i think the other two are mainly for the hive bonus so it’s up to you overall
Cheers!
Hi acid, I haven’t played in beesmas so I don’t have digital bee and i’m f2p so I don’t have bear bee either, I have 10 spicy bees right now in my red hive, is it ok to replace those two for the two spicy bees? Also how much honey would it cost to get those mythics without it being gifted?
probably 100b
Why gifted tadpoles and not gifted babies?
blue boost activates scorch
I was wondering whether to get either 500 red drives first, then 500 white drives, or vice versa OR build them both up gradually ?
I am currently a level 16 blue hive, the problem is that I don’t macro. I think going red would benefit me alot considering I am building up to a fuzzy alt and to dark scythe. Could anyone tell me if it is worth it or not?
maybe get level 18 first
Where is Gummy Bee tho
Just like lion bee, simply not worth it 🙂
Couldn’t I drop a carp for a fuzzy instead of a vector, when using honeymark smiley.
def not go build up a fuzzy alt asap
But like do I need the extra vector, I feel like I could use a gifted lion or Riley instead
Why is there no Gifted lion bee? Is the 5% Gifted bee pollen not worth having?
5% gbp is virtually nothing
It’s for extra toy horn though
Hey I wanted to ask, Are pink shades good for red? Or should I not equip it
No lion bee 😮
why fire bee should not be used?
fire bee gives flame pollen, most of your honey comes from precise marks and not flames
can you add like the passive to the supreme star amulet and wich one to have on a singele passive?
scorch saw, scorch
if I have BAR instead of bee gather on my digital is that better or should I replace it?
If bar was better they would’ve said smth like bar>gather meaning you’d rather have gather
Hi!
Can you send a ss of a really good RBC hive that you/top lb players use(basically just a proven good RBC hive)? I saw the RBC hive in the metabee guide, but it was called a “not full RBC hive”, and I’m looking for a proper full RBC hive. Im currently a LVL 21 blue macro hive, and am planning to switch to rbc hive to get 500:500:500 drives on Digi. Hive doesnt need to be cheap, would greatly appreciate it, thanks!
dm a_cid, also you dont necessarily need rbc hive for maxed colours only for glitched drives and supreme ammy
Could u send it here please? I can’t use discord rn and for a while 😭. Just a link to a ss would be fine, also what stats on SSA? Would it be the same as the ones in this guide? Also I’m trying to get liek 100 glitched or smth as well as 500 of the other 3. Thanks!
also cant use yt I’m on vaca rny where I can’t use either of those and I’ll be back in a few days so if u could J’s send a ss
also need good blue supreme ammy so that’s also why I’m switching
Or if you could just list the bees and how many out, thad be fine too. Also are their any differences between this red hive guide and RBC hive?(Specifically amulets, beequips, etc?) Thanks!
Thank bro!
Hey, quick question. I noticed there aren’t any music bees so no melody? How many toy horns should I have then? Cuz I am NOT getting a melody charm bracelet or anything 😭. If I have 3+ toy horns it takes too much space in my beequips case. Would appreciate any feedback/tips/guidance.
kazoo / charm bracelet / toy horns
Hey, I don’t have digital bee and I want to know a good replacement, I kept a gifted fuzzy because I had it and didn’t need a gifted gummy. Is there a bee i can replace it with? because gifted fuzzy is not in this hive.
Have mutations been removed from this guide?